[2006-05-25 13:13:05] 'allo [2006-05-25 13:22:43] *** Peaced (~Peaced@nwc-9AD08128.adsl.proxad.net) joined [2006-05-25 13:22:54] hi [2006-05-25 13:25:25] *** Peaced quit (Quit: ) [2006-05-25 13:46:55] *** RedR changed topic to 5pm PST / 8pm EST : Chat with Neverwinter Connections/NWVault staff | [2006-05-25 13:47:06] *** RedR changed topic to 5pm PST / 8pm EST : Chat with Neverwinter Connections/NWVault staff | 6pm PST / 9pm EST : Chat with Obsidian [2006-05-25 13:58:29] hmm.. it's 7am EST now, right? [2006-05-25 15:26:10] errr.... i dunno when you asked that, but it's now 9:25 AM EST [2006-05-25 15:26:18] (sorry, was sleepin') [2006-05-25 15:27:11] if you'd like, I can try to PM you about an hour before the prechat starts. [2006-05-25 15:28:12] it's 15h28 Gmt +1 there :) [2006-05-25 15:59:24] *** Gale (Gale@3AD376C4.1571EB3E.AC02B63.IP) joined [2006-05-25 16:29:09] aha [2006-05-25 16:29:35] see, I think that's EDT rather than EST - aren't you folk on daylight saving or equivelent at the moment? [2006-05-25 16:31:36] errr, yeah, i think so. [2006-05-25 16:32:06] *sigh* hey, side, can I be a pain in your side? The issue I'm having with NWN is -not- serverside. I can't even run the singleplayer right now. [2006-05-25 16:32:29] sure, go ahead [2006-05-25 16:32:43] (although why this is happening now when it worked to start with is beyond me. >.< ) [2006-05-25 16:32:48] singleplayer mods that use CEP or no? [2006-05-25 16:32:56] the HotU campaign [2006-05-25 16:33:01] Ee [2006-05-25 16:33:11] see, that sounds like something in the 1.67 update to me [2006-05-25 16:33:14] something in the engine [2006-05-25 16:32:41] well, one thing i noticed i was havign a problem with [2006-05-25 16:32:45] you've tried updating your other drivers? [2006-05-25 16:32:47] ah? [2006-05-25 16:33:01] I can connect to some multiplayer servers, and when I go to create a new character, when i get to the feat selection screen,a ll the feats are whited out [2006-05-25 16:33:43] err.. you sure you don't have any 3rd party overrides installed? [2006-05-25 16:34:01] absolutely positive. i'm looking at my override and my override bak folder, both are empty [2006-05-25 16:34:09] completely? [2006-05-25 16:34:13] yep [2006-05-25 16:34:29] (i'm running NWN Diamond if it makes a difference) [2006-05-25 16:34:47] oh, actually mine is too now that I looke, other than the soundset override [2006-05-25 16:34:54] nope. i don't even have that. [2006-05-25 16:35:00] hrm.. [2006-05-25 16:35:05] i've never played with a single override [2006-05-25 16:35:07] And you've tried the critical update? [2006-05-25 16:35:10] rebuild [2006-05-25 16:35:28] heh, i couldn't even -do - the update without the critical rebuild, the regular updater wouldn't work [2006-05-25 16:35:36] (broke halfway through the update) [2006-05-25 16:35:36] ack [2006-05-25 16:35:39] that sounds bad [2006-05-25 16:35:45] no, i've always had that problem. [2006-05-25 16:35:55] i get about halfway through the update, then it has a heart attack and tells me to go get the rebuild. lol [2006-05-25 16:36:02] used to upset me when I was on 56k [2006-05-25 16:36:13] hmm.. well, I'd try a full re-install - but first maybe send a report to Bioware/atari [2006-05-25 16:36:26] see if their customer services have anything to say [2006-05-25 16:36:43] (I usually find them completely useless, but it might be worth a try) [2006-05-25 16:37:09] on my end i'm just relieved it isn't a router issue, my host computer needed a reformat the other day, I was wondering if maybe one of the router settings was just borking my connection [2006-05-25 16:37:23] that's why i thought to try the SP campaign [2006-05-25 16:37:30] *nod nod* [2006-05-25 16:38:03] Personally I'd just try a re-install [2006-05-25 16:38:16] though it's always a hassle [2006-05-25 16:38:25] not so much for me, diamond is just one DVD [2006-05-25 16:38:30] i do have a question for you [2006-05-25 16:38:33] yeah? [2006-05-25 16:38:36] can you list the cep haks in your hak folder for me? [2006-05-25 16:38:47] oh sure [2006-05-25 16:40:07] i've got cep1patch150.hak cep1patch152.hak cep1patch.hak cep2da.hak cepanatomy.hak cepbaseitem.hak cepcreature.hak cep1patch153.hak cepplace.hak cepportrait.hak ceptexture.hak [2006-05-25 16:41:28] aurora_tdt.hak [2006-05-25 16:41:29] aurora_tdtinfo.hak [2006-05-25 16:41:29] aurora_ttz.hak [2006-05-25 16:41:29] aurora_ttzinfo.hak [2006-05-25 16:41:29] cep1patch.hak [2006-05-25 16:41:29] cep1patch150.hak [2006-05-25 16:41:29] cep1patch152.hak [2006-05-25 16:41:29] cep1patch153.hak [2006-05-25 16:41:29] cep2da.hak [2006-05-25 16:41:29] cepanatomy.hak [2006-05-25 16:41:29] cepbaseitem.hak [2006-05-25 16:41:29] cepcreature.hak [2006-05-25 16:41:31] cepplace.hak [2006-05-25 16:41:32] cepportrait.hak [2006-05-25 16:41:33] ceptexture.hak [2006-05-25 16:41:34] Neverwinter Nights - Pirates of the Sword Coast.hak [2006-05-25 16:41:35] potsc_lscrns.hak [2006-05-25 16:41:36] potsc_lscrns_2da.hak [2006-05-25 16:41:37] potsc_resources.hak [2006-05-25 16:41:38] that's everything [2006-05-25 16:41:46] on my laptop at least [2006-05-25 16:42:38] well, i don't have any of the aurora or potsc haks [2006-05-25 16:43:09] the fact it's happening with HotU makes me think it's not hak related either [2006-05-25 16:43:12] (i never put in the cd-key for potsc because it's not my copy, i was just running it because i didn't have my old install disc) [2006-05-25 16:43:35] well, wouldn't my hotu campaign be flagged as CEP required? [2006-05-25 16:43:41] don't think so [2006-05-25 16:43:49] unless you manually added CEP to it [2006-05-25 16:43:57] no. not this time around at least. [2006-05-25 16:44:31] wheeeeee... so I get to uninstall, reinstall, and redownload all the cep haks. [2006-05-25 16:44:45] is it possible that 1.67 is having issues because I don't have PotSC? [2006-05-25 16:44:50] haven't you got the cep installer somewhere? [2006-05-25 16:44:57] Nah, definaltely shouldn't be [2006-05-25 16:45:00] new hard drive. [2006-05-25 16:45:02] lot's of people won't have that [2006-05-25 16:45:14] it's one of the premium mods [2006-05-25 16:45:36] true, but diamond is -supposed- to come with it and i'm running diamond without potsc [2006-05-25 16:45:46] so i was wondering if that might cause any conflicts [2006-05-25 16:46:18] ah... hrm.. still wouldn't think it should cause problems.. [2006-05-25 16:46:54] but maybe it's worth trying with it to check [2006-05-25 16:47:10] eh. i don't wanna register the cd-key, like i said, it's not mine. lol [2006-05-25 16:47:21] i'll just have to hope that's not it. [2006-05-25 16:47:24] :-/ [2006-05-25 16:47:34] *sighs and rips NWN out* [2006-05-25 16:47:49] ah, so you're using your cd key with a diamond installer? [2006-05-25 16:47:57] yeah. [2006-05-25 16:48:10] and it works just fine for the install [2006-05-25 16:48:15] and prior to the update, everything worked perfectly [2006-05-25 16:48:23] for a little over a month [2006-05-25 16:48:48] (to my annoyance I can only run the game off the diamond DVD though) [2006-05-25 16:49:16] even though i've got the HotU cd. (the reason i needed the diamond installer is that i'm missing disc one from my gold version) [2006-05-25 16:49:46] ugh. i hope i don't lose all my journals again. i have a LOT of IC notes on them. :-/ [2006-05-25 16:50:22] including notes on the current quest LW is running with vlad, shirthoria, and madere. [2006-05-25 16:50:28] keep a copy of your local vault folder [2006-05-25 16:50:36] .... too late. LOl [2006-05-25 16:50:40] heh [2006-05-25 16:50:47] it should be serverside anyway [2006-05-25 16:51:00] ehhh, when I changed hard drives i lost all my journal entries. [2006-05-25 16:51:13] ack, hmmm.. maybe it's not then [2006-05-25 16:51:48] Ooo.. crap, its looks like it is all in the localvault folder :-/ [2006-05-25 16:51:56] in text files [2006-05-25 16:52:06] question [2006-05-25 16:52:14] i uninstalled NWN, but still have a nwn folder. [2006-05-25 16:52:23] ah, what's still in there? [2006-05-25 16:52:25] should i just delete it and work from scratch? [2006-05-25 16:52:42] check if your journals are still in there first though ;) [2006-05-25 16:52:47] errr, what's the command to do the list you just did? [2006-05-25 16:52:51] but yeah - well, I'd just rename it for now [2006-05-25 16:53:02] I just command from a command prompt [2006-05-25 16:53:06] *copied from [2006-05-25 16:53:26] meh. *feels more noobish by the hour* how? [2006-05-25 16:53:41] Start -> Run -> type in "cmd" and hit enter [2006-05-25 16:54:02] yep [2006-05-25 16:54:10] err.. now you'll need to change to your nwn directory [2006-05-25 16:54:24] is it installed in program files? [2006-05-25 16:54:53] i remember how to change directories. ;) [2006-05-25 16:55:00] ah ok :) [2006-05-25 16:55:14] i haven't run a dos prompt in 3 years, but that much i remember. XD [2006-05-25 16:55:31] just copy paste the dir command? [2006-05-25 16:55:51] I think there's a recurive option for it [2006-05-25 16:56:00] ... ? [2006-05-25 16:56:01] but yeah, just do dir /w for now [2006-05-25 16:56:25] then right click -> select all [2006-05-25 16:56:30] ctrl-c [2006-05-25 16:57:02] [.] [2006-05-25 16:57:02] [..] [2006-05-25 16:57:10] paste into notepad and select only what you want. Lol, I'm sure there's an easier way though [2006-05-25 16:58:51] hmm.. what's the latest version of nwn? Diamond? [2006-05-25 16:59:44] *** AelrynBloodmoon (~Elven_Mag@nwc-5410C887.gnv.bellsouth.net) joined [2006-05-25 16:59:50] blar [2006-05-25 16:59:58] * AelrynBloodmoon waits for the aelryn name to get booted [2006-05-25 17:00:06] * AelrynBloodmoon slaps Aelryn around a bit with a large trout [2006-05-25 17:00:08] *** Aelryn quit (Ping timeout) [2006-05-25 17:00:13] *** AelrynBloodmoon changed nick to Aelryn [2006-05-25 17:21:24] *** Curry-- (imp@nwc-A5A7441D.dhcp.inet.fi) joined [2006-05-25 17:21:31] hiya [2006-05-25 17:23:01] hello [2006-05-25 17:25:34] *** GaiaWerewolf (~Capsiacin@nwc-DF6EEF4.halls.manchester.ac.uk) joined [2006-05-25 17:26:09] so how long is it till the chat starts [2006-05-25 17:26:12] *** Imm0rtal (~Jay.Immor@nwc-326E8D93.sympatico.ca) joined [2006-05-25 17:26:15] *** Imm0rtal (~Jay.Immor@nwc-326E8D93.sympatico.ca) left () [2006-05-25 17:26:39] the NW Connections/NWVault chat starts in 8 and a half hours [2006-05-25 17:26:47] the Obsidian chat starts in 9 and a half [2006-05-25 17:27:07] *** Imm0rtal (~Jay.Immor@nwc-326E8D93.sympatico.ca) joined [2006-05-25 17:27:13] name ArtemisJ [2006-05-25 17:27:19] it's /nick [2006-05-25 17:27:29] *** Imm0rtal changed nick to ArtemisJ [2006-05-25 17:27:31] Ty sir [2006-05-25 17:27:37] * Aelryn bows [2006-05-25 17:27:46] you can register the nick too. [2006-05-25 17:27:47] hm, 9pm EST? That's a bit earlier than I thought... [2006-05-25 17:28:03] * Aelryn points to the chat topic [2006-05-25 17:28:05] Bah [2006-05-25 17:28:10] I hate mIRC [2006-05-25 17:28:14] this is fine.. :) [2006-05-25 17:28:40] heheh, i don't hate mIRC. i adore it. most chat room clients use a derivative of IRC commands [2006-05-25 17:28:59] =[ [2006-05-25 17:29:12] think about it. msn chats do, so do aol chats. eyechat.... [2006-05-25 17:29:17] the list goes on. :-) [2006-05-25 17:29:23] I use none of those :) [2006-05-25 17:29:51] ahh well. heheh. [2006-05-25 17:29:58] hate them all.. *twitches at the sound of nudging* [2006-05-25 17:30:12] Then don't use the official chat clients :P [2006-05-25 17:30:18] :P [2006-05-25 17:30:22] play nice. :-) [2006-05-25 17:30:36] When do we get to start bashing Obsidian about no DM client/horses? [2006-05-25 17:30:39] err I mean [2006-05-25 17:30:43] ... [2006-05-25 17:31:05] ask them questions about.. stuff..? [2006-05-25 17:31:06] * Aelryn slaps ArtemisJ around a bit with a large trout [2006-05-25 17:31:16] * ArtemisJ takes the trout like a man [2006-05-25 17:31:31] * Aelryn cocks his shotgun to put any beaten horses out of their misery mercifully [2006-05-25 17:31:46] * ArtemisJ makes a note that obsidian didn [2006-05-25 17:31:48] the client comes out the day of release as a download. XD [2006-05-25 17:31:53] nvm :P [2006-05-25 17:32:04] horses are in as ambient life, just not rideable. [2006-05-25 17:32:05] I was gonna say they didnt include guns either [2006-05-25 17:32:09] but I didnt have the heart [2006-05-25 17:32:12] heheh [2006-05-25 17:32:22] Too be honest Im not one of "those" people [2006-05-25 17:32:30] I figured as much. ;) [2006-05-25 17:32:33] even if I secretly did have my heart set on horses [2006-05-25 17:32:51] :( [2006-05-25 17:33:15] Hopefully we get dm_mylittlepony [2006-05-25 17:33:18] AT LEAST.. [2006-05-25 17:34:14] I'm actually not disappointed in the lack of horses, or guns. The only gun I might've used would've been the arquebus, and the fumble on a arquebus is kinda painful [2006-05-25 17:34:42] I am not a big fan of guns. They would have been cool to have for rare occasions [2006-05-25 17:34:58] in modules and such [2006-05-25 17:35:23] great [2006-05-25 17:35:23] I think people complain too much. I think the game looks amazing =\ [2006-05-25 17:35:26] so the chat starts at 4 am [2006-05-25 17:35:27] :D [2006-05-25 17:35:35] ehh..? [2006-05-25 17:35:42] 4 am where I live :P [2006-05-25 17:35:45] its 11:35 for me right now [2006-05-25 17:35:49] AM* [2006-05-25 17:35:54] 18:35 [2006-05-25 17:35:58] wowow [2006-05-25 17:36:01] Im not in the army [2006-05-25 17:36:05] real numbers please [2006-05-25 17:36:07] =\ [2006-05-25 17:36:19] 34 [2006-05-25 17:36:24] no wait, 42 [2006-05-25 17:36:24] uh we use 24 hour clock here =S [2006-05-25 17:36:32] whose we? [2006-05-25 17:36:34] :-P artemis, most of the world uses a 24 hour time system. ;) [2006-05-25 17:36:34] you? [2006-05-25 17:36:39] Hmmm [2006-05-25 17:36:40] and 18:35 is 6:35 PM [2006-05-25 17:36:41] where i live [2006-05-25 17:36:46] Well under my rock [2006-05-25 17:36:58] where's that? Eastern europe? [2006-05-25 17:36:58] we use the 12 x 2 hour clock [2006-05-25 17:37:30] western europe at the farthest I think, although it sounds more like britain [2006-05-25 17:37:42] 16:35 now [2006-05-25 17:37:44] here :) [2006-05-25 17:38:10] general rule, by the way, Artemis [2006-05-25 17:38:18] Woot! 'nother UKer! [2006-05-25 17:38:18] ? [2006-05-25 17:38:26] heh [2006-05-25 17:38:28] amen [2006-05-25 17:38:30] if someone gives you time on the 24 hours scale and the first number is over 12, subtract 12 from it and that'll give you the time. [2006-05-25 17:38:46] okay so is the last 12 PM or AM? [2006-05-25 17:38:47] and it'll be PM [2006-05-25 17:38:47] (though not really - I just live here ;)) [2006-05-25 17:38:53] anything over 12 is PM [2006-05-25 17:38:54] ah I see [2006-05-25 17:38:56] anything under is AM [2006-05-25 17:39:06] so even on a 24 hour clock Its still 11:38 [2006-05-25 17:39:11] =) [2006-05-25 17:39:16] yes. [2006-05-25 17:39:25] im so amazing [2006-05-25 17:39:26] at least in EST [2006-05-25 17:39:28] * ArtemisJ wants a cookie [2006-05-25 17:39:42] * Aelryn gives Artemis Sushi instead. it's better for you and it's yummy [2006-05-25 17:40:02] * ArtemisJ crumbles it up in a ball and pretends its a cookie >.O [2006-05-25 17:40:03] * Aelryn complains about no sushi shops in his area [2006-05-25 17:40:28] * ArtemisJ wonders if its crumble or crumple.. [2006-05-25 17:40:35] * ArtemisJ or if crumple is a word [2006-05-25 17:41:30] so when they said "this thursday" did they mean today or the thursday coming up? [2006-05-25 17:42:02] topday, I think [2006-05-25 17:42:08] today [2006-05-25 17:42:15] Today, today's the 25th [2006-05-25 17:43:01] by the way, both crumble and crumple are words. [2006-05-25 17:44:14] crumble is more like grinding into crumbs though, and crumple is more like an act of caving in on itself. [2006-05-25 17:44:20] i.e. the car crumpled in the crash [2006-05-25 17:44:27] crumpled inwards* [2006-05-25 17:44:32] and the cookie crumbled [2006-05-25 17:44:43] hmmm [2006-05-25 17:44:44] * Aelryn a fountain of fairly useless information [2006-05-25 17:44:49] Lol [2006-05-25 17:44:52] HAHAHA [2006-05-25 17:45:01] "faily useless" [2006-05-25 17:45:08] note its not useless.. just fairly useless [2006-05-25 17:45:20] ;) [2006-05-25 17:45:25] okay so hes there checklist [2006-05-25 17:45:30] hey, someone has to know these things. [2006-05-25 17:45:55] Timestop/Horses/Flying/Jumping/Climbing/Blood&Gore/protraits [2006-05-25 17:46:01] if they haven't left the room yet [2006-05-25 17:46:05] we can move onto dm Client [2006-05-25 17:46:07] >.< *makes a note to ask the dev's if the updater will work properly this time or if half the people who update will have to download critical rebuilds* [2006-05-25 17:46:23] I think timestops been covered pretty well, hasn't it? [2006-05-25 17:46:31] he's being sarcastic. heheh [2006-05-25 17:46:31] I wouldn't know [2006-05-25 17:46:34] Lol [2006-05-25 17:46:38] ah, heh [2006-05-25 17:46:50] Actually the only thing Im mad about [2006-05-25 17:47:05] is making the thing in .NET and not having a port for linux [2006-05-25 17:47:11] *nod nod* [2006-05-25 17:47:12] but those arguements died months ago [2006-05-25 17:47:20] They couldn't do the linux port anyhow, yeah :P [2006-05-25 17:47:24] ehh, they'll get linux support out eventually, i'm sure. [2006-05-25 17:47:26] only toolset is .net though [2006-05-25 17:47:29] I think [2006-05-25 17:47:32] True [2006-05-25 17:47:35] The rest is DirectX only. [2006-05-25 17:47:38] it's more the directx [2006-05-25 17:47:40] yeah [2006-05-25 17:47:46] And DirectX 9 to boot. [2006-05-25 17:47:49] well anywase.. it was bound to happen.. bioware is the only company that cares [2006-05-25 17:47:55] :-P [2006-05-25 17:48:03] I just want a linux server [2006-05-25 17:48:04] I have a windows operating system just for gaming.. nobody else cares about linux either [2006-05-25 17:48:07] at least [2006-05-25 17:48:17] yea /agreed [2006-05-25 17:48:32] game client would be nice [2006-05-25 17:48:36] and toolset would be awesome [2006-05-25 17:48:39] =P [2006-05-25 17:48:40] ehh, i would rather play on a linux-based server than a windows-based any day, they're more stable, but the developers have to get things done in the timeframe allotted to them, so I understand they had to cut things. [2006-05-25 17:48:44] but I guess they're probably not gonna happen [2006-05-25 17:48:55] I think we can all agree [2006-05-25 17:48:57] Atari [2006-05-25 17:48:58] = [2006-05-25 17:49:00] saddness [2006-05-25 17:49:04] wouldn't resign myself to hopelessness if I were you though. [2006-05-25 17:49:08] Im gonna ask them if they hate Atari [2006-05-25 17:49:10] off the record [2006-05-25 17:49:13] I expect NWN2 to do rather well, and as a result, it'll probably get a lot of support. [2006-05-25 17:49:20] I hope so [2006-05-25 17:49:25] I am fairly excited about what plug-ins might allow in the toolset, if they're in [2006-05-25 17:49:29] ;) [2006-05-25 17:49:41] yea the Graphics editor.. making our own spells [2006-05-25 17:49:41] oh dear [2006-05-25 17:49:58] strange things happened to my body when I read that.. @.@ [2006-05-25 17:50:10] ....why don't you just do that in NWN1? :P [2006-05-25 17:50:18] what do you mean? [2006-05-25 17:50:19] on the discussion of timestop (not a "is it in/they should put it in discussion, just timestop itself) i'm curious, a lot of people find the 3.5 version of the spell worthless...why? [2006-05-25 17:50:35] in nwn you could chain different effects together.. [2006-05-25 17:50:40] thats not the same as making your own [2006-05-25 17:50:45] in NWN1 you can make new emitters. [2006-05-25 17:50:53] ..with modeling tools, granted. [2006-05-25 17:50:56] with the toolset? [2006-05-25 17:50:57] not in the toolset though [2006-05-25 17:51:03] =) [2006-05-25 17:51:04] * Aelryn isn't a builder/tech... is lost on a lot of the creationary aspects and toolset talks [2006-05-25 17:51:07] Well yeah, but it's modeling practice :P [2006-05-25 17:51:11] true [2006-05-25 17:51:16] I am the most [2006-05-25 17:51:18] uncreative [2006-05-25 17:51:19] but what tools you need for it? [2006-05-25 17:51:22] person in the world [2006-05-25 17:51:34] In that case, Artemis, how will the NWN2 toolset be of any use to you? :P [2006-05-25 17:51:40] I like having a nice toolset do the shinies for me [2006-05-25 17:51:58] I mean artistic wise [2006-05-25 17:51:59] I cant draw [2006-05-25 17:52:01] at all [2006-05-25 17:52:09] what made me happy was the discussion of the fact that there will be an intuitive script wizard in NWN2 that will build a script for you based on you telling it what you want it to do. XD [2006-05-25 17:52:24] lol sorta like Lilacs program [2006-05-25 17:52:27] except its not [2006-05-25 17:52:28] :D [2006-05-25 17:52:28] means people like me who can't script can actually design a module [2006-05-25 17:52:33] I'm guessing to do the best things you'll still need to know a bit about the scripting though [2006-05-25 17:52:47] probably, but that's when we chain moth up in the basement and put him to work. [2006-05-25 17:52:52] XD [2006-05-25 17:52:52] :) [2006-05-25 17:53:03] (can probably get wynter to do it, too!) [2006-05-25 17:53:04] oh, it's already done :p [2006-05-25 17:53:06] Pool noodles work [2006-05-25 17:53:09] bioware has proven that [2006-05-25 17:54:02] did any of you get ID? [2006-05-25 17:54:13] yup [2006-05-25 17:54:19] whats your opinion? [2006-05-25 17:54:35] ID? [2006-05-25 17:54:36] I really like the randomness, but it feels a bit artificial to me [2006-05-25 17:54:47] and the treasure drops I've been getting are completely insane [2006-05-25 17:54:55] I have 100 million gold [2006-05-25 17:54:58] going on 200 [2006-05-25 17:55:02] and im half way [2006-05-25 17:55:04] also some of the creature groupings are a little odd [2006-05-25 17:55:05] through the module [2006-05-25 17:55:25] ahh, i take it this is an instance generated dungeon style premium module being discussed? [2006-05-25 17:55:31] and my plot givers keep dying :( [2006-05-25 17:55:35] to be honest.. I just dont like hack and slash.. [2006-05-25 17:55:39] =) [2006-05-25 17:55:51] I cheated by just warping to each of the boss areas [2006-05-25 17:55:59] tsk [2006-05-25 17:55:59] and seeing the cool cut scenes [2006-05-25 17:56:05] well that seems a bit pointless :p [2006-05-25 17:56:14] 10 minutes of hack and slash is pointless [2006-05-25 17:56:17] heh, I've only seen the opening one so far [2006-05-25 17:56:18] I just want the plot [2006-05-25 17:56:28] the fighting is part of the plot. XD [2006-05-25 17:56:34] not really.. [2006-05-25 17:56:45] the monsters dont do anything cool [2006-05-25 17:56:53] sure it is. the epic hero, battling legions of minions, finally arrives at his destination. [2006-05-25 17:56:59] bleh [2006-05-25 17:57:04] needs a dm to add flavor [2006-05-25 17:57:14] or its just blech [2006-05-25 17:57:17] true enough, but in my opinion, that's true of any D&D game. [2006-05-25 17:57:24] wellll [2006-05-25 17:57:31] you can make a module really fun with scripting [2006-05-25 17:57:37] so a dm isn't needed as badly [2006-05-25 17:57:56] ID has some things right in that respect, but others not quite [2006-05-25 17:58:01] to be honest, I never even played the SP campaigns on ANY of the NWN releases. I played maybe half of the first chapter in SoU. That was it. Then once I was used to the game interface I jumped right online into DM'd environments [2006-05-25 17:58:21] ID has interesting puzzles.. cool plots.. and its a revisit to one of the first Campaigns for FR [2006-05-25 17:58:27] but I hate hate hate hack and slash [2006-05-25 17:58:28] =( [2006-05-25 17:59:03] PotSC was funner [2006-05-25 17:59:04] =D [2006-05-25 17:59:10] can't say I mind it too much, if it's interspersed with a good plot and makes sense [2006-05-25 17:59:18] agreed side. [2006-05-25 17:59:37] yea.. a module needs some killing :D [2006-05-25 17:59:38] your character has to get good at fighting somehow. [2006-05-25 18:00:07] * Aelryn taps his foot and waits on the crit rebuild to finish downloading* [2006-05-25 18:00:19] updates still not working? [2006-05-25 18:00:22] nope. [2006-05-25 18:00:31] eh? [2006-05-25 18:00:33] after a completely fresh reinstall? [2006-05-25 18:00:33] 1.67 ? [2006-05-25 18:00:39] noooope. [2006-05-25 18:00:50] I have -never- had the update utility function properly for me, on ANY of my hard drives. [2006-05-25 18:00:52] whats not working? [2006-05-25 18:01:00] i always wind up downloading the crit rebuild [2006-05-25 18:01:00] really? [2006-05-25 18:01:04] yep [2006-05-25 18:01:06] it works fine for me ;\ [2006-05-25 18:01:11] that's really weird, maybe it is cause of the cd-key with diamond thing [2006-05-25 18:01:12] always [2006-05-25 18:01:17] same [2006-05-25 18:01:23] Side: except it did it back when I was playing gold too. [2006-05-25 18:01:24] I got my games all seperate as they came out [2006-05-25 18:01:30] NWN/SOU/HOTU [2006-05-25 18:01:38] and then when I updated to HotU [2006-05-25 18:01:40] =< [2006-05-25 18:01:49] even when I had 56k [2006-05-25 18:01:58] the updater has had issues with NWN from the beginning for some people. [2006-05-25 18:02:04] not me.. [2006-05-25 18:02:07] it's why they -always- released critical rebuilds. [2006-05-25 18:02:12] :-/ [2006-05-25 18:02:16] :-\ [2006-05-25 18:02:20] have you tried the zipped updates [2006-05-25 18:02:34] thats nothing.. I remember when the toolset would corrupt modules almost randomly [2006-05-25 18:02:35] instead of the crit rebuilds? 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